FIFA World Cup 2010 - South Africa - Page 11 - Alphaville Forum

TheMoonBoy · 29 Jun 2010, 15:11

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Originally Posted by poul e

Right now Spain is the best league, but Italy and England come close. It's not only a matter of having THE best team in Europe but more a matter of having more teams capable of doing well in Europe. I haven't looked at stats but my guess would be that more teams from England go far in the European tournaments than from Spain, Italy or anywhere else....

Here are the all-time stats of winners and runner-ups: Link

poul e · 29 Jun 2010, 17:08

Thanks for the link Moonboy:
The stats for the last 10 years in Champions League say:
Spain: 3 winners 1 runner up
England: 2 winners 4 runner up
Italy: 2 winners 2 runner up

The stats for the last 10 years in Europe League/UEFA Cup say:
Spain: 4 winners 2 runner up
England: 1 winner 3 runner up
Italy: 0 winner 0 runner up

I think it's safe to say that Spain are the best in recent history....that's no surpise!
But in fact the 3 countries are very close when it comes to the European winners/runners up (all 3 competitions) of all time:
Italy 28 24
Spain 25 20
England 25 16

If we remove all the stats for the 2 best teams from each country (Real Madrid-Barca-Man Utd-Liverpool-Milan-Juve) then it looks like this (all competitions):
Spain: 7 10
England 13 12
Italy 13 13

Then you can take the stats for number of teams in the quarter finals of the Champions League for the past 10 years:
England: 24
Spain: 18
Italy: 14
England are the only country which have had at least 1 team in the quarter finals each of the past 10 years! And 2 times they have had 4 teams in the quarter finals. Manchester United have been in most (7) quarter finals in the past 10 years. Arsenal and Barca (and Bayern Munich) have been in 6, Liverpool, Chelsea and Milan in 5.

These last facts support my theory that most English teams have gone far in Champions League.....

poul e · 29 Jun 2010, 21:37

A very deserved victory for Spain against Portugal in the last of the 1/8 finals! Portugal played very defensive and their only attacking play was on the counter. I am hoping Spain will win the tournament...they have great players and are a joy to watch!!!

mAjor · 30 Jun 2010, 15:55

A South American team in each of the 1/4 finals!

Foolship1077 · 30 Jun 2010, 20:52

Uh, guys? Here's a little something for the occasion.

Richani · 02 Jul 2010, 14:03

Holland - Brazil today !!!!

4 days of party in our town [drunk]

poul e · 02 Jul 2010, 14:36

I hope these 4 teams will be in the semifinals: Holland-Uruguay-Argentina-Spain

colette · 02 Jul 2010, 18:27

Uruguay tonight! beers chilling and my betting slip is by my side (125-1!)

Richani · 02 Jul 2010, 18:30

HOLLAND BEAT BRAZIL !!!!!!!!!!! 1/2 FINALS HERE WE COME !!!!!!!!!!! Now meeting up at my home to go to the parties all of us !!! [drunk]

russharvey · 02 Jul 2010, 22:24

wow! who would have thought they would handle Brazil so well!!! congrats to HOLLAND!!!

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Richani Party nut Join Date: 31 Oct 2008 Location: Langedijk, Oudkarspel - Holland Posts: 8,692	HOLLAND BEAT BRAZIL !!!!!!!!!!! 1/2 FINALS HERE WE COME !!!!!!!!!!! Now meeting up at my home to go to the parties all of us !!! [drunk] ~~ Ријaнa [love2] Алфaвил ~ ~You gotta fight, for your right to party~

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russharvey Dream Keeper Join Date: 13 Jan 2001 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon, USA Posts: 3,893	wow! who would have thought they would handle Brazil so well!!! congrats to HOLLAND!!! *This life is expensive, but at least it comes with a free trip around the sun!*

29 Jun 2010, 17:08	#102
poul e Dream Keeper Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Thisted, Denmark Posts: 7,069	Thanks for the link Moonboy: The stats for the last 10 years in Champions League say: Spain: 3 winners 1 runner up England: 2 winners 4 runner up Italy: 2 winners 2 runner up The stats for the last 10 years in Europe League/UEFA Cup say: Spain: 4 winners 2 runner up England: 1 winner 3 runner up Italy: 0 winner 0 runner up I think it's safe to say that Spain are the best in recent history....that's no surpise! But in fact the 3 countries are very close when it comes to the European winners/runners up (all 3 competitions) of all time: Italy 28 24 Spain 25 20 England 25 16 If we remove all the stats for the 2 best teams from each country (Real Madrid-Barca-Man Utd-Liverpool-Milan-Juve) then it looks like this (all competitions): Spain: 7 10 England 13 12 Italy 13 13 Then you can take the stats for number of teams in the quarter finals of the Champions League for the past 10 years: England: 24 Spain: 18 Italy: 14 England are the only country which have had at least 1 team in the quarter finals each of the past 10 years! And 2 times they have had 4 teams in the quarter finals. Manchester United have been in most (7) quarter finals in the past 10 years. Arsenal and Barca (and Bayern Munich) have been in 6, Liverpool, Chelsea and Milan in 5. These last facts support my theory that most English teams have gone far in Champions League.....

29 Jun 2010, 21:37	#103
poul e Dream Keeper Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Thisted, Denmark Posts: 7,069	A very deserved victory for Spain against Portugal in the last of the 1/8 finals! Portugal played very defensive and their only attacking play was on the counter. I am hoping Spain will win the tournament...they have great players and are a joy to watch!!!

02 Jul 2010, 14:36	#107
poul e Dream Keeper Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Thisted, Denmark Posts: 7,069	I hope these 4 teams will be in the semifinals: Holland-Uruguay-Argentina-Spain

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