Romeos versions mystery - please help - Page 2 - Alphaville Forum

humanracer · 23 Mar 2015, 02:20

I also think part of the problem is the online stores supplying the wrong files for first harvest. The FH version is about 4:52 and is a new edit. It is probably the only version to feature the angels line.

I wonder what the version on the LP is?

vafe · 23 Mar 2015, 08:34

As I know, is was a mistake by the record company, because there were 2 master tapes for the album TBB. The Wea used the right master for the pressing to the LP, but for the CD pressing they used the wrong. It is the reason, that 2 album versions have the Romeos. And verily, from the CD version is missing the line on the end of the song: "In different shapes...." - Info by Bernhard, 1996 ;-)

jetset · 23 Mar 2015, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by vafe

As I know, is was a mistake by the record company, because there were 2 master tapes for the album TBB. The Wea used the right master for the pressing to the LP, but for the CD pressing they used the wrong. It is the reason, that 2 album versions have the Romeos. And verily, from the CD version is missing the line on the end of the song: "In different shapes...." - Info by Bernhard, 1996 ;-)

I'm surprised, since the version on my album CD is the correct one with all lines

nicole · 23 Mar 2015, 18:09

I like to hear the other version of Romeos so I know the difference. One thing I have noticed that AV does is change some of their songs from the music videos. If you hear Jet Set (album version) compared to the actual music video, there is a difference. The same thing happened with their other songs as well, but I don't remember exactly which ones. It's quite interesting.

Krapplund · 23 Mar 2015, 18:58

The promo 12" vinyl release from Atlantic have that part with on both versions (A and B-side)

mdeconno · 23 Mar 2015, 19:58

The question to ask yourself is "why" they changed the lyrics? Not that there is a difference. "Why" is there an extended version, "Why" there is a slower version, "Why" there is more, or less, of a musical interlude in some songs, "Why" songs on a Greatest Hits are different than the Original. Even ask yourself "Why" some extremely popular songs (i.e., Red Rose, Romeos) was not added to the "Stark Naked and Absolutely Live" CD but other ones made the cut.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicole

I like to hear the other version of Romeos so I know the difference. One thing I have noticed that AV does is change some of their songs from the music videos. If you hear Jet Set (album version) compared to the actual music video, there is a difference. The same thing happened with their other songs as well, but I don't remember exactly which ones. It's quite interesting.

nicole · 23 Mar 2015, 20:27

There are so many questions I'd love to ask Marian. I believe maybe AV had so many ideas that they made a song or remix to everyone of their ideas? I really don't know why they made so many remixes. I think it is a great idea they have done that and still continue to do. Their ideas are very intelligent in many ways, and of course I always ask myself "why" they did what they did. That's what makes AV such a great and different band.

humanracer · 23 Mar 2015, 23:37

This topic has been discussed on the AV mailing list since about 2003:

I have also two different versions of the album and this has always puzzled
me and I have been meaning to ask the society for a long long time. I have
two different versions of "Romeos", one where Marian sings "Angels in
different shapes" (I think) a couple of times just at the end of the song
and one where this line is gone. Is this same that you have experienced or
do we have various copies of copies?

Anyone?

/Carl.

The version on First Harvest is a shorter one (mixed by someone) but the two
different versions of Romeos on Breathtaking do have the same length. You
could also if you listen close to the speaker notice a bit higher voice on
the chorus just after the guitar solo singing, "You could see us from the
window tonite" on the version without the "Angels in different shapes".
Please try.

All the best!

/Carl.

Hi!
I have TBB in LP (vinyl) and this version contains Marian singing "Angels in different shapes"
Is there other vinyl version without this line?
�kos

Foolship1077 · 24 Mar 2015, 03:21

I've heard of this, too, as the "angel-less" version also plays on Pandora.

As far as I can tell, the US version has the "angels" part in the song, but the European version does not. Being in the States, and TBB being the first CD I've ever gotten, I know I hear it in that recording, so I was surprised to hear that there was another version on CD that didn't!

I also notice that the angels are missing on the 12" remix, which I have as a vinyl, not just in the So80s CDs.

Halfnelson · 26 Mar 2015, 13:56

I'm confused too. All my versions (except Maxis) have the 'different shapes' line and my CD is an European CD+G ? Now I'm curious about the version without... (I can't listen my LP vinyl anymore though)

23 Mar 2015, 18:58	#15
Krapplund Dream Keeper www.krapplund.com Join Date: 09 Nov 2000 Location: Emmaboda, Sweden. Posts: 17,548	The promo 12" vinyl release from Atlantic have that part with on both versions (A and B-side) "Alphaville ohne Bernhard ist wie eine Apfelstrudel ohne apfel" 17'04'2003 www.krapplund.com

24 Mar 2015, 03:21	#19
Foolship1077 Travelling Companion Join Date: 28 Feb 2008 Location: Seattle, USA Posts: 4,027	I've heard of this, too, as the "angel-less" version also plays on Pandora. As far as I can tell, the US version has the "angels" part in the song, but the European version does not. Being in the States, and TBB being the first CD I've ever gotten, I know I hear it in that recording, so I was surprised to hear that there was another version on CD that didn't! I also notice that the angels are missing on the 12" remix, which I have as a vinyl, not just in the So80s CDs. Hello, my friend...

23 Mar 2015, 02:20	#11
humanracer Dreamer Join Date: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 215	I also think part of the problem is the online stores supplying the wrong files for first harvest. The FH version is about 4:52 and is a new edit. It is probably the only version to feature the angels line. I wonder what the version on the LP is?

23 Mar 2015, 08:34	#12
vafe Dreamer Join Date: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 364	As I know, is was a mistake by the record company, because there were 2 master tapes for the album TBB. The Wea used the right master for the pressing to the LP, but for the CD pressing they used the wrong. It is the reason, that 2 album versions have the Romeos. And verily, from the CD version is missing the line on the end of the song: "In different shapes...." - Info by Bernhard, 1996 ;-)

23 Mar 2015, 18:09	#14
nicole Dreamer Join Date: 24 Jun 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,937	I like to hear the other version of Romeos so I know the difference. One thing I have noticed that AV does is change some of their songs from the music videos. If you hear Jet Set (album version) compared to the actual music video, there is a difference. The same thing happened with their other songs as well, but I don't remember exactly which ones. It's quite interesting.

23 Mar 2015, 20:27	#17
nicole Dreamer Join Date: 24 Jun 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,937	There are so many questions I'd love to ask Marian. I believe maybe AV had so many ideas that they made a song or remix to everyone of their ideas? I really don't know why they made so many remixes. I think it is a great idea they have done that and still continue to do. Their ideas are very intelligent in many ways, and of course I always ask myself "why" they did what they did. That's what makes AV such a great and different band.

23 Mar 2015, 23:37	#18
humanracer Dreamer Join Date: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 215	This topic has been discussed on the AV mailing list since about 2003: I have also two different versions of the album and this has always puzzled me and I have been meaning to ask the society for a long long time. I have two different versions of "Romeos", one where Marian sings "Angels in different shapes" (I think) a couple of times just at the end of the song and one where this line is gone. Is this same that you have experienced or do we have various copies of copies? Anyone? /Carl. The version on First Harvest is a shorter one (mixed by someone) but the two different versions of Romeos on Breathtaking do have the same length. You could also if you listen close to the speaker notice a bit higher voice on the chorus just after the guitar solo singing, "You could see us from the window tonite" on the version without the "Angels in different shapes". Please try. All the best! /Carl. Hi! I have TBB in LP (vinyl) and this version contains Marian singing "Angels in different shapes" Is there other vinyl version without this line? �kos

26 Mar 2015, 13:56	#20
Halfnelson Waiter Join Date: 14 Jul 2011 Location: Distant Shore Posts: 315	I'm confused too. All my versions (except Maxis) have the 'different shapes' line and my CD is an European CD+G ? Now I'm curious about the version without... (I can't listen my LP vinyl anymore though)