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Old 23 Sep 2010, 23:10   #11
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... except that a phoenix bird does not ressemble a royal eagle, no matter how fierce it's painted.
The matter is that it isn't painted fierce at all... The hanging tongue
isn't the reason to consider this phoenix bird such... J. evidently wanted to please the Dreem Keeper...[smile2] He likes to please women...



The new logo can mean whatever you want. At first, one should clear up the meaning of each detail seperately. Then, probably, there will be some opinions concerning the general understanding and explanation of it.
Let's start... "sisters and brothers"[smile2]:

The first that arrests attention is this mentioning of the Sun and the Moon , as the two oppositions and fundamentals of the universe, the symbol of Yin and Yang, Mother and Father, as well as kindness and evil...The Sun is the highest cosmic force, the mind of the universe, the eye of the world, greatness and fame. It also symbolizes both life and death. The Sun surrounded with rays is the center of mind and light. The Sun and the Moon depicted together mean the ending of the Great Work... By the way, the stars are the sort of their children...

The swan is a so called Sun Bird - the symbol of rebirth/revival, purity, chastity, loneliness, nobleness, wisdom, courage, perfection and poetry. It refers to two elements: air and water, - thus, is considered to be the bird of life, at the same time embodying death. It is known that, in particular, the white swan symbolizes good and life. It's a bird of poets. The whiteness of the swan is the sincerity of a poet. The Celts considered that the "swans' music" had got the magical characteristics....

The hare is a Moon Animal and also an attribute of all the Moon Gods. It embodies the rebirth/revival as well as the swan, the return of youth, the intuition and the light in the darkness. Very often the hare is associated with the sacrifice fire and life which has gone through death... also a symbol of love, shyness, life wisdom. The white hare is a God himself...
By the way, according to the Chinese Moon-Sun calendar, 2011 is the year of the White Rabbit/Hare...

The monkey can be understood in different...opposite ways, positive and negative. On the one hand, it's a man's caricature. Often percieved as the sign of angriness, vice, vanity, avidity, dissipation, absence of the firm moral bases, cunning, craftiness, laziness, drunkness...
On the other hand, it's a creative sign... the sign of the creative people, their fantasies and ideas and the symbol of learning. In many belives monkeys were and are highly esteemed, respected. Somewhere it is the God of dance.
What about those tubes in their paws, I don't have any suppositions yet.

So, you can have various "readings" of this logo...


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Old 24 Sep 2010, 06:12   #12
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I had to open that pic up on a new tab so that I can go back and forth while examining it.

The "rabbit on the run" as he jumps over the moon is a nice reference. Can't tell if the moon has a monkey's face, but where there may not be one, they make up for it with the two playing instruments below all that.

The omega and alpha signs near the top...The end of one era (WEA and the independents), the beginning of another (Universal)!

The sun had already been mentioned as a ref to TBB.

The swan, though...What kind of swan song did AV do...?


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Old 24 Sep 2010, 07:27   #13
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The omega and alpha signs near the top...The end of one era (WEA and the independents), the beginning of another (Universal)!
Interesting version [smile2].

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The sun had already been mentioned as a ref to TBB.

The swan, though...What kind of swan song did AV do...?
Can it be so that everything here is reduced to the hint on some certain albums and songs of AV? Isn't it too primitive?
The logo can be interpreted not only from the point of view of AV creative work, but music and poetry in general, not forgetting about some simple humane truthes, finally some ideology...
I'm sure that when it was created the band put several meanings into each sign of the logo. It's curious that the symbols are placed exactly in such variant that also can add to the understanding of the logo.

Shouldn't we try to understand it relying on different approaches...?
Or am I going "too deep into the forest"?...



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Old 24 Sep 2010, 15:52   #14
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I like your summary of symbolisms, MO! &
Just the swan meanings are total contrary to my experiences...[smile2]

Swan song: I really hope that will never happen!


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Old 24 Sep 2010, 16:15   #15
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Just the swan meanings are total contrary to my experiences...[smile2]
Feel so sorry that I haven't come up to your expectations...


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The swan, though...What kind of swan song did AV do...?

This one:

http://www.alphaville.org/showthread...highlight=swan


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Old 27 Oct 2011, 10:42   #17
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I had to open that pic up on a new tab so that I can go back and forth while examining it.

The "rabbit on the run" as he jumps over the moon is a nice reference. Can't tell if the moon has a monkey's face, but where there may not be one, they make up for it with the two playing instruments below all that.

The omega and alpha signs near the top...The end of one era (WEA and the independents), the beginning of another (Universal)!

The sun had already been mentioned as a ref to TBB.

The swan, though...What kind of swan song did AV do...?


find out more about the meaning of the swan within many alphaville songs here (scroll down for english version):
http://alphavilleforever.tumblr.com/...that-helped-to
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