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Old 26 Nov 2018, 00:14   #21
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Strange Attractor was an album which was going to be released in 1993 but it went unreleased and, in it's place, Prostitute came out just a year later.




A number of SA's tracks were turned into tracks for Prostitute; most notably one named "Red Rose II" which was a rough version of Iron John.
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 10:34   #22
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Heart of the Flower (unknown year) - Unreleased is track 3 on So Long Celeste by Marian 1992. It is also track 16 of Disc 5ive on the Dreamscapes boxset.


Twelve Years (unknown year) - Unreleased demo of "Sweet Needles Of Success" from the "So Long, Celeste (1992)" Marian Gold solo album is track 14 on Dreamscapes Six. It also appears as track 10 on the Visions of Dreamscapes (1999) album
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 10:39   #23
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Yes, I was a bit tired when I initially typed out that list :) I felt like an absolute tool when I realized those were finished tracks on a commercially sold album! haha...




So, now that we know Für Dich was likely a track meant to be on CROG (probably in English, so it'd be named "For You"), here are the tracks we pretty much know for a fact were potential CROG tracks but were left out for whatever reason:


Sweet Dreams
My Very Blood
Gallery
Für Dich
Criminal Girl
Around the Universe
A Handful of Darkness




The ones I'm unsure about are Demon Eyes and Tempelfhof.


I think Kalte Asche might have been one as well, but that's debatable. I remember reading the track was written in 2005 and I don't know for sure, but I think an English version, named "Cold Ashes" was made (or maybe written but not recorded?). It's a great track.



In regards to Twelve Years: I wonder if any earlier mixes exist. I think the orchestral version is a demo of some kind. It sounds like one. Very, well, not unpolished, but it's noticeably more muffled and lacks the "shine" that the final mastered mix has to it.
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 11:31   #24
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Astral Body (Demo Remix) - Track 8 on Disc 7 on the Dreamscapes Revisited album
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 13:13   #25
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So, now that we know Für Dich was likely a track meant to be on CROG (probably in English, so it'd be named "For You"), here are the tracks we pretty much know for a fact were potential CROG tracks but were left out for whatever reason:


Sweet Dreams
My Very Blood
Gallery
Für Dich
Criminal Girl
Around the Universe
A Handful of Darkness



You forgot:

Over the hills and far away
Eternally yours
Black hole door(Became Enigma on SA)
Question of happiness
Kalte asche

Alot of good songs,CROG is a great album which could have been made even better
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 14:03   #26
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I totally wonder that, too... A certain someone on Youtube uploaded a "special" mix of LWFAW... Sounds official and from what I can gather, the version he uploaded was never released to the general public... I had stumbled across another possible demo of the song on Youtube, and it was in January of 2008 when it was posted, so it was probably demo 4 or 5, or maybe even 6 since the instruments are the same, along with Marian's vocals; Just rearranged. It vaguely sounds like ON's version.. Did he somehow get the full version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHPOjLFjB8

I legitimately wonder how the hell he got ahold of that version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4xJs8UozeE


Well, in that case .. :-)
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 16:56   #27
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I found out that mix was a different demo that was given out in December 2007 on Moonbase. I just wonder what the first LWFAW demo was like... I'm guessing it's pretty similar to that one!
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 16:58   #28
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You forgot:

Over the hills and far away
Eternally yours
Black hole door(Became Enigma on SA)
Question of happiness
Kalte asche

Alot of good songs,CROG is a great album which could have been made even better

Questions of Happiness sounds like it would've been a damn good track. Eternally Yours sounds like it's a pretty love song :)


CROG is great, for sure!
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 17:00   #29
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Astral Body (Demo Remix) - Track 8 on Disc 7 on the Dreamscapes Revisited album



I'll update the list and remove all of the released Dreamscapes tracks so it only contains the completely unreleased and unheard tracks and the Moonbase tracks :)


I heard that Astral Body was a song that was meant to be on Salvation... I'd guess Kinetic was, as well (given the sound of it).


I wonder if "In Bubblegum" was meant to be on United at any point... I think no, but it seems like it was. Funnily enough, United was, back in 1995, named "Untitled" which is fairly close to the final name! haha
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Old 26 Nov 2018, 19:46   #30
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Questions of Happiness sounds like it would've been a damn good track. Eternally Yours sounds like it's a pretty love song :)


CROG is great, for sure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Al49jgvc-0

Qustion of happiness is a great song
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