Universal Daddy ? - Alphaville Forum

Avil · 02 Dec 2000, 18:17

When I taklked with Marian about this song,the respons was like; Shit.I hate it!
He doesn´t like Universal daddy at all,and that was mostly because of the lyrics.But I can´t see anything wrong with them.In fact,I like them very much...Does someone have any clue why Marian hate this song so much?

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Krapplund · 03 Dec 2000, 21:37

I like that song....why not Marian? :)

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Jeder für sich...
Auf seinem Weg nach Alphaville'

Adiville · 03 Dec 2000, 23:34

Universal Daddy is great !!!

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poul e · 04 Dec 2000, 05:52

Universal Daddy is among my 20 favourite Alphaville songs. Especially the "Aquarian Dance Mix" is fantastic!!:)

Adiville · 04 Dec 2000, 08:28

yes yes yes !!!
aquarian mix !!!
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wii · 04 Dec 2000, 08:31

From Marian:

Dear Adi!
UNIDAD is not the only of my hate-songs. Another popular one was, for a
long time, SLAM. After the huge and unexpected success of BIJ in 1984, we
planned to release FY as the next single. But at that time suddenly our
record company changed its mind. They sent two emissaires from Hamburg to
Münster to convince us to write an additional song which would be published
in between BIJ and FY. A song in a hitsingle-format. I think, I speak for
the rest of the band (Bernhard and Frank) when I say that we weren´t very
much excited about this plan. On the other hand, we had claimed in many
interviews before (except Frank, who never talked) that we saw the
pop-media mainly from a "singles-perspective". Singles are pure commercial
objects. They only make sense when they sell.
And pop-musicians we were!
However, my deepest belief was (and still is) that writing music only for
the sake of commercial success is the worst deal you can do, a dead end
street (14 years later we wrote a song about that subject called "Dangerous
Places"). But here we were, young and unexperienced, with a million-seller
at our back. - We decided to take the whole enterprise as a kind of game
that we had started and were now about to fulfill. We had invented the
rules
and the record company only took us at the word. That was the creation of
SLAM. It took us one afternoon to write and another day (or two) to arrange
it. I never forget the moment when we played the nearly finished "product"
to the record representatives. They danced in bizarre steps through our
studio, giggling words like "great" or "yeah" and I could see those
dollar-signs printed out in the look of their eyes. I felt kind of
...abused. From that very moment on I started to hate the song. - Ten years
later, I was putting the live-set together and had a long discussion with
Martin (Lister) whether we should play SLAM yes or no (...to play or not to
play). After I told him the whole story he said: Listen, I understand your
point but the song is really good (and you´re an idiot not to play it).
Well, we rehearsed SLAM a couple of times with the band and that changed my
mind completely. It felt great to play and sing the song together with the
boys. Still I have to say that there is a deep truth hidden in the chorus
line: When we wrote SLAM, we entered "forbidden territory" ...for a
while. -
A couple of months later, we rehearsed UNIDAD and I still hated it.
But that´s another story.
Marian Gold

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Avil · 04 Dec 2000, 14:03

UD is one of the best songs I´ve ever heard, but seems like not everyone thinks the same...*pointing at Marian*

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Avihai · 04 Dec 2000, 19:07

UD has a very cathcy tune. Maybe Maraian doesn't like the optimism of the lyrics .
Personally, I love the demo in Dreamscapes.

I'm in the mood to
touch the fire .

Avil · 05 Dec 2000, 16:43

Gosh!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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micki · 10 Nov 2001, 14:26

I think Universal daddy is a great song!! And I've also heard some kind of extended version of it and I liked it very much too, it had great adds in some parts...cool sounds in deed!!.. wonder what's in those lyrics that make him hate it?... maybe because it's very commercial (as SLAM) and maybe the thoughts behind those lyrics aren't so deep and meaningful, and that makes Marian think that the lyrics would be a little cheap, and that he wouldn't like them... but of course often artists themselves are very critical about their own production, and maybe he's just very sensitive about some little things in those lyrics that make him dislike 'em and "that's it", you know...

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02 Dec 2000, 18:17	#1
Avil The dream Join Date: 12 Nov 2000 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 8,154	Universal Daddy ? When I taklked with Marian about this song,the respons was like; Shit.I hate it! He doesn´t like Universal daddy at all,and that was mostly because of the lyrics.But I can´t see anything wrong with them.In fact,I like them very much...Does someone have any clue why Marian hate this song so much? I´m your best friend-the dream

03 Dec 2000, 21:37	#2
Krapplund Dream Keeper www.krapplund.com Join Date: 09 Nov 2000 Location: Emmaboda, Sweden. Posts: 17,539	I like that song....why not Marian? :) 'Jeder geht allein... Jeder für sich... Auf seinem Weg nach Alphaville'

03 Dec 2000, 23:34	#3
Adiville big in japan Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 7,449	Universal Daddy is great !!! @ville - forever and ever.

04 Dec 2000, 05:52	#4
poul e Dream Keeper Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Thisted, Denmark Posts: 7,069	Universal Daddy is among my 20 favourite Alphaville songs. Especially the "Aquarian Dance Mix" is fantastic!!:)

04 Dec 2000, 08:28	#5
Adiville big in japan Join Date: 08 Nov 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 7,449	yes yes yes !!! aquarian mix !!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> @ville - forever and ever.

04 Dec 2000, 08:31	#6
wii Dream Master Join Date: 07 Nov 2000 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,703	From Marian: Dear Adi! UNIDAD is not the only of my hate-songs. Another popular one was, for a long time, SLAM. After the huge and unexpected success of BIJ in 1984, we planned to release FY as the next single. But at that time suddenly our record company changed its mind. They sent two emissaires from Hamburg to Münster to convince us to write an additional song which would be published in between BIJ and FY. A song in a hitsingle-format. I think, I speak for the rest of the band (Bernhard and Frank) when I say that we weren´t very much excited about this plan. On the other hand, we had claimed in many interviews before (except Frank, who never talked) that we saw the pop-media mainly from a "singles-perspective". Singles are pure commercial objects. They only make sense when they sell. And pop-musicians we were! However, my deepest belief was (and still is) that writing music only for the sake of commercial success is the worst deal you can do, a dead end street (14 years later we wrote a song about that subject called "Dangerous Places"). But here we were, young and unexperienced, with a million-seller at our back. - We decided to take the whole enterprise as a kind of game that we had started and were now about to fulfill. We had invented the rules and the record company only took us at the word. That was the creation of SLAM. It took us one afternoon to write and another day (or two) to arrange it. I never forget the moment when we played the nearly finished "product" to the record representatives. They danced in bizarre steps through our studio, giggling words like "great" or "yeah" and I could see those dollar-signs printed out in the look of their eyes. I felt kind of ...abused. From that very moment on I started to hate the song. - Ten years later, I was putting the live-set together and had a long discussion with Martin (Lister) whether we should play SLAM yes or no (...to play or not to play). After I told him the whole story he said: Listen, I understand your point but the song is really good (and you´re an idiot not to play it). Well, we rehearsed SLAM a couple of times with the band and that changed my mind completely. It felt great to play and sing the song together with the boys. Still I have to say that there is a deep truth hidden in the chorus line: When we wrote SLAM, we entered "forbidden territory" ...for a while. - A couple of months later, we rehearsed UNIDAD and I still hated it. But that´s another story. Marian Gold visit us at: http://www.alphaville.org

04 Dec 2000, 14:03	#7
Avil The dream Join Date: 12 Nov 2000 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 8,154	UD is one of the best songs I´ve ever heard, but seems like not everyone thinks the same...pointing at Marian I´m your best friend-the dream

04 Dec 2000, 19:07	#8
Avihai Dreamer Join Date: 27 Nov 2000 Location: Metropolis, , Israel. Posts: 202	UD has a very cathcy tune. Maybe Maraian doesn't like the optimism of the lyrics . Personally, I love the demo in Dreamscapes. I'm in the mood to touch the fire .

05 Dec 2000, 16:43	#9
Avil The dream Join Date: 12 Nov 2000 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 8,154	Gosh!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> I´m your best friend-the dream

10 Nov 2001, 14:26	#10
micki Banned Join Date: 30 Aug 2001 Location: Where the streets have no name, , . Posts: 2,950	I think Universal daddy is a great song!! And I've also heard some kind of extended version of it and I liked it very much too, it had great adds in some parts...cool sounds in deed!!.. wonder what's in those lyrics that make him hate it?... maybe because it's very commercial (as SLAM) and maybe the thoughts behind those lyrics aren't so deep and meaningful, and that makes Marian think that the lyrics would be a little cheap, and that he wouldn't like them... but of course often artists themselves are very critical about their own production, and maybe he's just very sensitive about some little things in those lyrics that make him dislike 'em and "that's it", you know... "the 80's child"