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wii 10 Feb 2016 09:52

Has Facebook killed The Dreamroom?
 
I'm seriously considering closing down The Dreamroom [bigmouth], few people use it, and the post count is much lower now than it was in the past. It's not free to host a forum like this online, and I have to consider all the options. I believe Facebook has killed The Dreamroom [yuck]

What do you think?

rolandk 10 Feb 2016 10:34

I fear it is true. I am checking several forums of different artists on a regular basis and all of them have this problem since some years. Facebook seems to be the easier way, to stay in contact with the band and to get all news.

For me personally it would be a great loss, if you close the Dreamroom. As you can see I am not an hyperactive user, but I am here minimum once a week without loggin in, just to check whatīs going on.
I do have a facebook account, but I donīt like facebook at all and I am not using it. So if you should close down the Dreamroom, I would loose my No. 1 information source for AV.

With the Dreamroom you gave all AV fans around the world a homeplace, Willy.

So to keep it as it is, I would have no problem, to pay some Euros to support you in your great work.

nicole 10 Feb 2016 10:48

I think Facebook maybe brought the post count here low, but doesn't Marian and the others still use the Dreamroom for another source along with chats? We can't chat with Marian and everyone on Facebook. The Dreamroom has many great aspects that Facebook doesn't and never will. It would break my heart to see it go. If it wasn't for you or the Dreamroom, I wouldn't have been about to chat and post fun things with you all for the past 5, almost 6 years. Yes, I'm not on as often as I used to be because of a busy schedule, but I do check in a few times a day to see if there have been any new post.The Dreamroom has been around way before Facebook and to be honest, I enjoy the Dreamroom over Facebook anyday. I always use the Dreamroom as my #1 source for new information. Wii, have you discussed this with Marian? Maybe he will have some ideas to keep the Dreamroom up as well. I understand what you mean, but it would just be so sad to see it go.

jetset 10 Feb 2016 12:06

Maybe there is a low activity when AV's actuality is... low, so can we really blame it solely on FB ? But I find all three main sources of info (Moonbase/The Dreamroom/AVNow) to complement one another, so I'd be sad to see the DM down.

poul e 10 Feb 2016 12:27

Personally I spend about 70% of my online time on Facebook so in a way I suppose you could be right Willy.
Actitvity at the forum surely is not the same as it was 5+ years ago. Facebook is the main reason for sure but there are also other reasons. I am not nearly as interested in AV as I was 10 years ago....there are different reasons for that.....but an important reason for me is that their music is moving in the wrong direction...and then of course all the delays of releases.....that's also really annoying!

I totally understand if you end up closing down the forum Willy....it will be a tough decision to make, but it might be the right one as it probably won't get any easier to collect enough money to keep the forum going, as more and more people dissapear from the Dreamroom...

*ariAna* 10 Feb 2016 14:08

I would lose one of my "internet homes". That would be very sad!
I don't use facebook and I think I never will. So in a future without the Dreamroom the only information source would be the mailing list.

But information about the band is not the reason for me to come here, I'm here for the people and the fun!

wii 10 Feb 2016 14:14

Thanks for the support, I'm still considering the options [smile]

What I could do is move the forum to a cheaper hosting company, that would be ideal for me, only problem is that we loose the ability to chat with many users online, but if we can live without that, then the forum could continue for years and years...

tjommen 10 Feb 2016 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by poul e (Post 253743)
Personally I spend about 70% of my online time on Facebook so in a way I suppose you could be right Willy.
Actitvity at the forum surely is not the same as it was 5+ years ago. Facebook is the main reason for sure but there are also other reasons. I am not nearly as interested in AV as I was 10 years ago....there are different reasons for that.....but an important reason for me is that their music is moving in the wrong direction...and then of course all the delays of releases.....that's also really annoying!

I totally understand if you end up closing down the forum Willy....it will be a tough decision to make, but it might be the right one as it probably won't get any easier to collect enough money to keep the forum going, as more and more people dissapear from the Dreamroom...

youre absolutly right..all this delays is the same as lost of intresting

Clare 10 Feb 2016 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by *ariAna* (Post 253747)
I would lose one of my "internet homes". That would be very sad!
I don't use facebook and I think I never will. So in a future without the Dreamroom the only information source would be the mailing list.

But information about the band is not the reason for me to come here, I'm here for the people and the fun!

I'm with Ana here although I do use facebook it isn't the same at all. I hope the Dreamroom continues.

poul e 10 Feb 2016 20:59

I think it is a fantastic idea to move to a cheaper host. I didn't think that was a possibility.

Would it be possible to "lend webspace" for a bigger chat 1 time each year or is that not possible?

Stefan 10 Feb 2016 21:12

Well, it is an institution for me...but there are many reasons for that minimum of traffic...but it has not to be Facebook alone.
We had the same with our german Indochine-Forum. But than we had a meeting with the Band in Berlin and that was followed by other Fan-Meetings and Events. OK, we are just around 25 hardcore-users, but we could never find that "home-feeling" on Facebook. But that could be a reason: We have a lot of "real" events, enough new music every year and tons of concerts. Remember the time around the Paris-concert, I think we had much more traffic here. The same with the german "Golden-Feeling"-Forum, even a little more sad how empty it is there. We have also still a "Fanclub-Newspaper" once a year...that is much more old-fashioned than a forum ;-) I still remember that fantastic magazine you had at New Horizons...that were the times.
I would move to a cheaper place, hoping for better times.
But I canīt see any chance to get the same feeling on Facebook.

Halfnelson 11 Feb 2016 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by wii (Post 253748)
Thanks for the support, I'm still considering the options [smile]

What I could do is move the forum to a cheaper hosting company, that would be ideal for me, only problem is that we loose the ability to chat with many users online, but if we can live without that, then the forum could continue for years and years...

Amen to this.

shapeseven 11 Feb 2016 18:11

Has Facebook killed The Dreamroom ?
 
Weil, I wouldn't like to see the dream room being closed, but I can perfectly understand your point.
If you decide to do so, which I do not hope, I would start offering an official slack group for Alphaville.
If you can move to a more economic source, one could still consider to chose any other tool for chats - I'm sure there are plenty options to be used every now and then.

hajak 11 Feb 2016 20:16

No,I dont think Facebook is the reason why the interest has dropped.
I think the reason is 4 years delay of the album that made people loose interest in Alphaville.
I really hope that you keep dreamroom running in some way,
This is the Place where you can write your opinions about AV.

Thank you for running this site Wii

Mumu 11 Feb 2016 20:34

I would be very sad to lose my second family.

I must admit I'm often on FB since a few months, as it became a tool to understand and help some changes in my country. But I never forget the Dreamroom.

Moving to a cheaper host, why not ?

Kaz 12 Feb 2016 17:20

Like others, I come to the Dreamroom to share with like-minded friends. I would hate to see it close. I don't think Facebook is the reason for the decline. I think the reason is manifold...

Itzel 15 Feb 2016 20:23

I think that probably because not many are connected to Forum Dremroom, but please do not delete Forum The Dreamroom [sad]

wii 16 Feb 2016 11:05

I'm doing my best, I'm talking to my current webhost about this, will keep you posted [smile]

*ariAna* 16 Feb 2016 17:22

Thank you for all your engagement, Willy, I really appreciate it! [king]

Mumu 16 Feb 2016 20:38

Thank goodness you're here, Willy. We do need the Dreamroom !

Foolship1077 17 Feb 2016 07:29

I don't even use Facebook, mostly out of fear that I might bump into someone again that I would rather not deal with.

As for my absence, just a busier schedule now.

wii 19 Feb 2016 08:03

Ok, everything has been moved to a cheaper solution within the same webhost, I think we lost some posts in the transfer, but not that much, please let me know if the speed and performance is ok.

Thanks

Mumu 19 Feb 2016 09:45

Yeepeee, great new, thank you so much, Willy !

hajak 19 Feb 2016 14:16

Thank you for keeping this great site[smile]

nicole 19 Feb 2016 14:44

Wonderful! Thank you!!

jetset 19 Feb 2016 16:07

Great !
Here the navigation seems identical, nothing noticeable.

*ariAna* 19 Feb 2016 16:46

Everything is fine, 1000 thanks!!!

stardustdawn 22 Feb 2016 00:33

I've missed the AV community since I had to leave it several years ago. Now that I'm trying to come back, it seems like it's gone. I hear the yahoo group is practically nonexistent, but there doesn't seem to be much interaction on FB either to explain that. I would love to be a part of the community, meet other fans, etc. I'm not sure why that has died off, but the Dream Room seems to be our last hope. Help us, Mar-ian-Kenobi- you're our only hope!

Foolship1077 24 Feb 2016 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardustdawn (Post 253882)
I've missed the AV community since I had to leave it several years ago. Now that I'm trying to come back, it seems like it's gone. I hear the yahoo group is practically nonexistent, but there doesn't seem to be much interaction on FB either to explain that. I would love to be a part of the community, meet other fans, etc. I'm not sure why that has died off, but the Dream Room seems to be our last hope. Help us, Mar-ian-Kenobi- you're our only hope!

We're just hanging in there as best we can, really.

Used to be part of the Yahoo! Group, even got a response from Marian himself, but it had been so long that I couldn't remember my password, and eventually lost the account. Part of not being there so long was the wait for posts to show up in threads, that delay that was pretty irritating.

Glad to pop in once in a while, still, and glad things were done to keep the site going.

MalilaM 02 Mar 2016 03:44

I'm so late joining this conversation. [paperbag]

I try to visit every day, but lately I don't even have the time to read all active threads, even less to post a reply.

I still haven't got used to the phone (I used to have one with a physical keyboard but they don't exist anymore); I prefer writing on the PC's keyboard, so I usually wait until I can use the PC to visit the Dreamroom to post.
Also, AV is something serious for me, so I like to dedicate time and attention to what I post here; it's very different when I visit FB, where I can post anything without even thinking much about it. It's faster and I don't have to write long messages.


@Willy: I agree that the Dreamroom could move to a cheaper host, since the website is not having as much traffic as it used to have. However, I would like to ask: given that we have at least one chat with Marian per year, is it possible to host the chat in a good server just for the day Marian is there? That would be fantastic and we wouldn't have to sacrifice much. [?]


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