Sexual healing...

[Avil]

Well, someone started this in a different topic, thought we could continue it here.
There are many people out there that likes being different, homo-bi-blablasexuals!
I have nothing against these one, I think they are cool! =) I think everyone should have the right to be exactly as they wish!
I don´t see the problem...why die because of your feelings? Why aren´t u allowed to adopt a child if you are homosexual??


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[buttman]

Maybe because homosexuals will bring the kid up as another homosexual? It also helps keeping the kid from answering those really hard questions like 'What's your mom and dad's name?' John and Thomas.

[leenix]

There is no such thing as a homosexual upbringing. Some are good parents, others shouldn't even consider parenthood in the first place and that goes for all of us. Loving parents, that's what a kid needs and gender and sexuality has nothing to do with that.

Blabla-sexual sounds interesting. Is blabla sex something we all should try to spice things up, Avil? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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[Pronnmo]

I totaly agree with you, leenix.

The only reason I can see at the moment I'm writing this is that the child could be teased by the other children later on, in kindergarden and school and stuff.. but seeing as how things get more and more accepted by many people today, I doubt this will take very long before being accepted.

Perhaps?

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[Avil]

1. I think that growing up with homosexual parents learn the child to be more open against people that are different!
Other children wont tease them if their parents have told them to accept people as they are!

2. Leenix...LOL...Maybe!! *HOHO*

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[Trent]

Homosexuals can adopt...It is just very hard for us to...There are a few reasons why this is...One being ignorance to homosexuals...we are still viewed as space aliens that are perverts around children and always walk around with no clothes on, wear make-up and swish when we walk...This is a myth that I wish people would get over..Most people when they first meet me have no idea that I am gay and I still have friends that don't have a clue...I am very normal to them, well except the fact that I am a loon..another reason comes from that horrible virus AIDS...many homosexual men have died from that virus and people have a hard time considering homosexual men as parents since they have a high risk factor of contracting the virus and dying prematurely in life

"When I close my eyes, I see my soul...When I open them, I see yours"...
Trent

[Avil]

I don´t understand what it is that is so hard with letting people be what they are!!

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[AV_defender]

another myth about bi or gay is that some still believe its some kind of disease or a fashion from the outworld you stuck on to..i would like to underline a big NO to this myth cause ive experienced me self that it isnt that way it works!
its the same as personality,youre born with it,youre born with feelings that you discover sooner or later..and this is also the same case with your sexual side..
you carry around with it until youre old enough to not be scared of boybacils and understand why girl wear lipstick..thats when you relize what you go for in chosing a partner..i remember my religion teacher bringing this subject up during a lesson..shes very stuck into the christian religion,so she said that you really know what youre after when youre 18...if i would have had more curage among my class i would have objected loudly..but i just laughed a bit for her blindness..

as about aids,it doest always get to you by sex...a blood transfusion has almost the same risks if you consider..

/Defender-The Watcher Of The Scene

[micki]

...AIDS can also be transfused to you by open wounds and kisses from mouth to mouth...

...but about the thopic here itself...
I remember once when we came to speak about this with my cousin...I remember his face when I just replied that I have nothing against gay people, that I think they are really cool...he just started talking shit like; "I think they are so f**king selfish, they only thing they think of is themselves, they want to be differnt, they want to love people of their own gender..." and so on...I just listened to what he said, looked at him, and calmly replied;
"well, when you listen to your own thougths, and what you just said, don't you think that people like you are being the selfish ones here? All you care about is your of straightness, and you wanna press down people who feel attracted to the same sex. You know, considering that there are so f**king many assholes who think like you in this world, I don't think anybody wants to be gay just by free will...I think it's something that you are born with, and you can't choose it, and I think you should respect them for what they are, because they still are people with another "taste" in sexuality, just like everybody has their personal musictaste...don't you think? If you have anything further to add about this subject, do it in a polite manner because I'm so f**king fed up with people who have such narrowminded opinions like you." (I used the f-word pertty a lot here, as I was pretty agitated as you can see <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)...
I think that briefly (?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) explained my thoughts about gay people...
..and on more thing, something I really think is great, is that just recently the finnish governement decided to allow gay people officialize their realtionship!! Now according to the law, gay people can get married here!! I think it's a great step towards liberalism and openmindness here too...

and BTW...Defender, you know what I think? I think that the next time you're in a situation like that, I think you should speak for your thoughts! I've spoke for gay-liberalism often in front of our class if somebody has said something negative about it...some people have picked on me for this, but most seem to just admire the fact that I have courage to speak for the minorities...

...hang in there people, and remember that all of us have the right to our opinion in the world...and remember, difference is richness!! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

"the Child of the new Season"

[Trent]

Ok people...please if you're going to comment on something like AIDS...Get all the facts first...This is how panic starts...People are uninformed and start saying things that are not correct

HIV is transmitted in blood, semen, breast milk, and vaginal fluids. HIV is commonly spread by
Having unprotected sexual intercourse with someone who has the virus
sharing needles or syringes with someone who has the virus
receiving transfusions of blood products donated by someone who has the virus
getting HIV-infected blood, semen, or vaginal secretions into open wounds or sores
being deeply punctured with a needle or surgical instrument contaminated with the virus
passing from a woman to her fetus during pregnancy or birth
HIV is not transmitted by simple casual contact such as kissing, sharing water glasses, or hugging.

If you would like to learn more please visit:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/STI-SAFESEX/aidsquestions.htm
http://www.avert.org/geninfo.htm
There are other informative sites as well...=)

Now that being done..There is only one case reporting being infected through kissing...The guy had gum disease and his partner claims that she contracted it that way...Now I won't go into me thoughts on how much saliva she would have to have ingested to get AIDS from kissing And the unlikelyhood that she contracted AIDS this way...or how much I dont believe that billions of men and women with AIDS are kissing up storms and she is the ONLY ONE that has it through kissing!! I have a hard time believing this story... =) Cheers!!!

"When I close my eyes, I see my soul...When I open them, I see yours"...
Trent


Edited by - Trent on 21 Jan 2002 23:20:14

[micki]

I wasn't panicing...

"the Child of the new Season"

[Trent]

I didn't say you were panicing Micki...I said misinformation causes panic

"When I close my eyes, I see my soul...When I open them, I see yours"...
Trent

[leenix]

People who hate homo-bi-blabla-sexuals are usually narrowminded in other ways as well. They tend to have prejudice about everyone who's not exactly like themselves, maybe beacause of both fear and ignorance. The sad part (besides that they hurt a lot of people, of course) is that they miss out of so much in life. By raising these walls around themselves they see very little of our beautiful world and its diversity. We come in all shapes and sizes, let's respect and embrace that fact.

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[Trent]

For those of you interested in this...

Adoption in Same-Sex Couples
Legally Recognizing the Same-Sex Parent Has Real Benefits to the Child, Parents
By Jeanie Davis

Feb. 4, 2002 -- Children thrive in same-sex families, studies have shown. Yet in most states, the co-parent -- the second parent -- is not allowed to adopt the child. That should change, says the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP).
"When two adults participate in parenting a child, they and the child deserve the serenity that comes with legal recognition," says a statement issued by the AAP's Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health. The statement appears in the current issue of the medical journal Pediatrics.

"The Academy supports the legal adoption of children by co-parents or second parents," says the statement. "Denying legal parent status through adoption ... prevents these children from enjoying the psychologic and legal security that comes from having two willing, capable, and loving parents."

In the statement, the committee says when the law recognizes co-parent adoption, it produces these benefits:

It guarantees that the second parent's custody rights and responsibilities will be protected if the first parent were to die or become incapacitated.
It protects the second parent's right to custody and visitation if the couple separates.
It establishes the requirement for child support from both parents in the event of the parents' separation.
It ensures the child's eligibility for health benefits from both parents.
It provides legal grounds for either parent to provide consent for medical care and to make education, healthcare, and other important decisions on behalf of the child.
It creates the basis for financial security for children in the event of the death of either parent.

It's time to stop looking for problems in gay and lesbian parent-child relationships, says Ellen C. Perrin, MD, a professor of pediatrics at Tufts New England Medical Center in Boston. Perrin served as a consultant to the AAP committee. Her technical report also appears in this month's Pediatrics.

"There's very clear research showing that children whose parents are gays and lesbians are not at any disadvantage compared to children of heterosexual parents," she tells WebMD. "They grow up like any other kid. There are no data that suggest there is a special problem conveyed to those children. We can feel pretty comfortable about that."

Also, research shows that gay and straight parents have similar attitudes toward parenting, Perrin says, adding that all parents want to do the best they can for their children.

The child's emotional and cognitive development -- their ability to perform well in school and in jobs -- is just like other children, she says. "It's indistinguishable." Children's play and friend choices and interests are all exactly consistent with their anatomic sex," she says.

In fact, children growing up in gay homes seem to be "more tolerant of diversity, which is certainly of value in our multicultural society," Perrin tells WebMD. They also seem to develop different coping mechanisms. "The children also seem to be less aggressive, more nurturing at a young age -- in preschool and early elementary school. They seem to be able to resolve conflicts in a less-aggressive way than other children."

But are the kids more likely to be gay? Both environment and genetics do seem to help determine gender identity, says Perrin. However, two long-term studies -- in which the children are now aged 30 -- show that gay families don't produce more gay kids. While the data aren't definitive, they "would suggest there is no difference," she tells WebMD.

Children of gay parents may be more likely to experiment, however. The long-term studies show that both boys and girls indicated they would be more willing to think about the possibility of a same-sex relationship, says Perrin.

Allowing co-parents to adopt is crucial, she tells WebMD. "There are legal issues plus the emotional security of knowing

[Clare]

To stop children being adopted by potentially caring parents because they might get bullied at school is ridiculous.

If a child is going to get bullied, the bullies will find any reason. (adoption itself for example, wearing glasses, looking different).

Be yourself, and stand up for what you believe in!!!




Clare

[Avil]

The gouvernment here in Sweden want to put out a law that gives homosexuals the right to test adopting a child.

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