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hardin
03 Jan 2001, 12:18
I wonder if "To Germany With Love" is a parodie on the 2:nd World War.

M. Härdin

Adiville
03 Jan 2001, 14:38
ummm... Im not sure if about the WW2 but it talks about the politics in Germany.
We all know how much Marian &quot;loves&quot; politics <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>
if you'll listen to the demo version of FY you'll see that it talks about WW2.

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Mrs.Picard
03 Jan 2001, 15:58
Difficult question....
I can remember an interview, Marian said that 'To Germany With Love' is a letter that somebody who has left Germany writes to his fatherland.... That is the reason why some words of both hymns, the German and the DDR hymn, appear at the end of the song....
I think it has something to do with DDR, not with 2nd World War, but I am not sure....
Hope I could help you a bit...

MC Morlock

hardin
04 Jan 2001, 01:44
If you study the lyrics...

a war between the wars
(the World Wars??)

triumph over by-gone sorrow
(germany's loss in the 1:st World War)

can in unity be won
(hitler united the german people)

here comes the terror-squad
(is Marian pointing at the nazists???)

this is the turn of colours
(germany changed the flag during the WW's)

let us build a nightmare nation
(hitlers dream of the new germany)

Flourish in this blessing glory
Flourish German fatherland...

...and the evil laught in the end of the song

hmm... I'm still wondering
I think &quot;To Germany With Love&quot;
highlight the 2:nd World War in a cryptic but also clear way.

what do you think?



M. Härdin


Edited by - hardin on 04 Jan 2001 01:47:53

Mrs.Picard
04 Jan 2001, 15:02
Well I don't know, really.
But I can imagine what Marian would say: He would say that you're right because you made your own thoughts about the song <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.... And that is always right.....
Or something....

MC Morlock

Adiville
04 Jan 2001, 16:17
well Hardin, the way you put it... I think you have a point there :)

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Avil
04 Jan 2001, 19:31
Seems nice hardin...:)

*I´m your best friend-the dream*

syntetico
25 Jan 2001, 17:44
or maybe simply it talks about the 2 germanies,East and west...
Ps: &quot;a summer by the wall&quot;...

...You can halt your car for an afternoon in Utopia...
syntetico

hardin
15 Feb 2002, 14:17
I wonder what the

March 1: Departure
March 2: Arrival
March 3: Still

...means in the lyrics <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ariana Dreamer
15 Feb 2002, 14:30
Yes, I´ve been thinking of that myself. I think TGWL is a very mysterious song. With a lot of secrets to unfold...

I give in to sin - Because I like to practice what I preach

hardin
15 Feb 2002, 14:43
That's for sure!

wonder2000
18 Feb 2002, 12:33
...and not so good song in my opinion... But naturally great composition.

March 1: Departure
March 2: Arrival
March 3: Still

I´m wondering those too...

"It`s me - Julian"

AV_defender
24 Feb 2002, 13:18
this piece "a war between the wars"made me think of that there was actually a war inside of Germany, while germany was busy in WW2. the people didnt know which side to choose, hitlers or the jews. i guess the most of them knew the jews wasnt the reason the problems hitler blamed them for..but they had to take his side cause of the fear they had. so i would actually say that there was a war between the war that was between the wars..the war that was going on in the german peoples feelings all the time..

I'm just a shadow-You are the light

Ariana Dreamer
25 Feb 2002, 13:03
The song is probably just a reflexion of life... How it could be and how it was. Not written from a personal point of view but from an observers point of view. Which means that the song has nothing to do with opinions just reflexions of reality.

I give in to sin - Because I like to practice what I preach

micki
25 Feb 2002, 14:31
well, I think it tells about WW2 and the conflicts between East and West, Natzies and Jews, good and bad....and I like the song like hell <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>...

"the Child of the Night"

Streetside Romeo
20 Mar 2002, 01:23
I think is is an allegory of WW2 (also the machine-gun like, mechanic beat), but from a later point-of view: A cynic emigree that still loves his fatherland but sees that this "cold new generation" (the generation that wants to throw over the memory on WW2) is just about to repeat the old errors and disasters. He tries to warn them but in the end cynicism is what remains. In this sense flourish German fatherland"(evil laugh)...
one of the all-time-best AV-compositions, Bernhard at his best!And Marian wonderfully indifferent

We are what we are - the meaning of life

micki
20 Mar 2002, 10:38
I love that laughter...heh, Marian can act out his part well <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Ariana Dreamer
02 Apr 2002, 10:52
I really agree with Streetside Romeo when he sais that TGWL is one of the best AV-compositions ever! It´s perfect really.


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micki
08 Apr 2002, 15:44
and I can't say more than that I agree with you guys <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>...

[nightchild]