Universal Daddy ?

[Avil]

When I taklked with Marian about this song,the respons was like; Shit.I hate it!
He doesn´t like Universal daddy at all,and that was mostly because of the lyrics.But I can´t see anything wrong with them.In fact,I like them very much...Does someone have any clue why Marian hate this song so much?

I´m your best friend-the dream

[Krapplund]

I like that song....why not Marian? :)



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Jeder für sich...
Auf seinem Weg nach Alphaville'

[Adiville]

Universal Daddy is great !!!

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[poul e]

Universal Daddy is among my 20 favourite Alphaville songs. Especially the "Aquarian Dance Mix" is fantastic!!:)

[Adiville]

yes yes yes !!!
aquarian mix !!!
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[wii]

From Marian:

Dear Adi!
UNIDAD is not the only of my hate-songs. Another popular one was, for a
long time, SLAM. After the huge and unexpected success of BIJ in 1984, we
planned to release FY as the next single. But at that time suddenly our
record company changed its mind. They sent two emissaires from Hamburg to
Münster to convince us to write an additional song which would be published
in between BIJ and FY. A song in a hitsingle-format. I think, I speak for
the rest of the band (Bernhard and Frank) when I say that we weren´t very
much excited about this plan. On the other hand, we had claimed in many
interviews before (except Frank, who never talked) that we saw the
pop-media mainly from a &quot;singles-perspective&quot;. Singles are pure commercial
objects. They only make sense when they sell.
And pop-musicians we were!
However, my deepest belief was (and still is) that writing music only for
the sake of commercial success is the worst deal you can do, a dead end
street (14 years later we wrote a song about that subject called &quot;Dangerous
Places&quot;). But here we were, young and unexperienced, with a million-seller
at our back. - We decided to take the whole enterprise as a kind of game
that we had started and were now about to fulfill. We had invented the
rules
and the record company only took us at the word. That was the creation of
SLAM. It took us one afternoon to write and another day (or two) to arrange
it. I never forget the moment when we played the nearly finished &quot;product&quot;
to the record representatives. They danced in bizarre steps through our
studio, giggling words like &quot;great&quot; or &quot;yeah&quot; and I could see those
dollar-signs printed out in the look of their eyes. I felt kind of
...abused. From that very moment on I started to hate the song. - Ten years
later, I was putting the live-set together and had a long discussion with
Martin (Lister) whether we should play SLAM yes or no (...to play or not to
play). After I told him the whole story he said: Listen, I understand your
point but the song is really good (and you´re an idiot not to play it).
Well, we rehearsed SLAM a couple of times with the band and that changed my
mind completely. It felt great to play and sing the song together with the
boys. Still I have to say that there is a deep truth hidden in the chorus
line: When we wrote SLAM, we entered &quot;forbidden territory&quot; ...for a
while. -
A couple of months later, we rehearsed UNIDAD and I still hated it.
But that´s another story.
Marian Gold

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[Avil]

UD is one of the best songs I´ve ever heard, but seems like not everyone thinks the same...*pointing at Marian*

I´m your best friend-the dream

[Avihai]

UD has a very cathcy tune. Maybe Maraian doesn't like the optimism of the lyrics .
Personally, I love the demo in Dreamscapes.


I'm in the mood to
touch the fire .

[Avil]

Gosh!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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[micki]

I think Universal daddy is a great song!! And I've also heard some kind of extended version of it and I liked it very much too, it had great adds in some parts...cool sounds in deed!!.. wonder what's in those lyrics that make him hate it?... maybe because it's very commercial (as SLAM) and maybe the thoughts behind those lyrics aren't so deep and meaningful, and that makes Marian think that the lyrics would be a little cheap, and that he wouldn't like them... but of course often artists themselves are very critical about their own production, and maybe he's just very sensitive about some little things in those lyrics that make him dislike 'em and "that's it", you know...

"the 80's child"

[Avil]

The other version you have heard must be the maxiversion. It´s good yeah, but nothing can be better than the original version, if not the new FP-remix.

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[AV_defender]

universal daddy is a kind of love song for me..i love the part "throwing stones against your window" and also"you can meet me if you want me,but id like to meet you all alone"
and also a song that tells everyone who listens to it that however alone they feel,there is always a steady sholder to hold on to..somewhere
well,actually in the universal kingdom..alpha-x homepage<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>!!!!

the song is more than ok for me:)

/Defender

*The watcher of the scene*

[Streetside Romeo]

Universal daddy is naive, quite simple and so under usual AV-level. But it is about this comfoting neivity of a child that there is allways some sheltering daddy outside. It gives a part of this comfort back, so I love it.

I wanna be with the fools in the storm

[Avil]

Ye, that´s true. It´s a very naive song, very simple, there is not so much meaning behind it. But as I´ve earlier said, this song maybe don´t mean much to me, but to someone else, it means so much!

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[micki]

Well, I really can't decide which one is better... usually originals are the best, but in this case, I don't know, because in the maxi-version, there was at some points something really good missing that was in the original, but also vice versa, there were some real goodies in some parts of the maxi-version that weren't in the original, so it's really hard for me to choose..but maybe if I'd have to choose either of them to listen to the rest of my life it would probably be the maxi- one, because it's longer <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> *hehe*...

quote:Originally posted by Avil:

The other version you have heard must be the maxiversion. It´s good yeah, but nothing can be better than the original version, if not the new FP-remix.

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"the 80's child"

[Ariana Dreamer]

I always get this unpleasent feeling when I´m listening to UNIDAD, I don´t know if it´s the lyrics or the melody... I just don´t like it very much.

With all my love - I went into the world


Edited by - Ariana Dreamer on 12 Nov 2001 13:30:19

[Avil]

Unpleasant feeling heh?
Not good at all.

The maxiversion has a guitarrpieace I´m fond of.

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[Mrs.Picard]

When I was younger I liked the song very much....
But now... Nope...

[Avil]

why not?

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[Alien]

I like this song very much. It's one of my all time favorites.
And I could never understand why Marian hated it.

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[russharvey]

Universal Daddy - Aquarian Dance Mix is one of AV's better 12" vinyl mixes - only a close second to the Palace Version of Jerusalem. Perhaps some of Marian's dislike for UD comes from the pathetic music video that was created for this song?

***This life is expensive, but at least it comes with a free trip around the sun!***

[Avil]

I haven´t thought that much about the video, it´s not so good.

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[Mrs.Picard]

@ Avil: Well I don't like the lyrics very much anymore...

[Avil]

That´s why Marian don´t like this song, he hates the lyrics. He told me that not only once but like three times. He told it was pure shit. =/

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[wonder2000]

But song is great

"&gt;\\love can be magic
it can be a game//&lt;"

[Alien]

And I think so!

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[Avil]

I don´t think that the lyrics have to mean that much everytime! this song is good, the lyrics is funny!

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[Alien]

yeah! that's my point of view too...

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[Avil]

yes...everyone doesn´t have to be deadserious to be good...hehe

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[Alien]

hehe... trying to remember when I was last absolutely serious...

"Maybe right, Oh, but maybe wrong
Doesn't have to be serious..."
*singing"

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[Avil]

is that a song`?

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[Alien]

Duran Duran "Serious"

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[Avil]

never heard it, I don´t like DD

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[Alien]

I've just heard it yesterday... so it's one of those hundreds songs in my mind...

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[Avil]

ah oki....well, it seems to fit good to this topic...hehe

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[Alien]

<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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[Avil]

well...
but what do u think Marian means with a universal daddy????

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[micki]

Maybe a big presence, or a spirit, of someone in your thoughts, who leadsand guides you, and cares about all of us...
...and I agree, everything doesn't always have to have a deep, serious meaning, why not relax sometimes? I love "Universal Daddy"...

"the 80's child"

[micki]

...and BTW, Duran Duran rocks!!

"the 80's child"

[Alien]

I never thought about meaning of the song. I just enjoy it everytime I listen to it!

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[Avil]

Every song doesn´t have a meaning. I can put together a bunch of words and call it lyrics...

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[Alien]

:)

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[Ariana Dreamer]

I think UNIDAD is about FJ Nelson...:)
You know:

"There´s an Universal Daddy for everyone,
from Universal kingdom, number one,
He sends his universal angels through the air, to universal dreamers everywhere, blowing kisses"

defenetely about dear Nelson ??

Edited by - Ariana Dreamer on 28 Nov 2001 09:54:25

[Avil]

oh the mysterious nelson again!!!

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[Mrs.Picard]

Oh no, not Nelson again... :-))

[Ariana Dreamer]

Sorry guys...
Maybe I´m obsessed with him<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>:)

But I think it was a quite good
interpretaion. I think that Nelson is the Universal Daddy of all dreamers and utopians.

With all my love - I went into the world

[micki]

Obsessive thoughts...what are we heading to, my dear fellow-Alphavilleans?... Oh dear...

"the 80's child"

[Avil]

the universal daddy must be no one but urself

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[micki]

Well, couldn't I rather be UNIMOM or...something...?

"the 80's child"

[Avil]

Well you can be whatever u want.

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[Alien]

I like Ariana's version! Nelson = Universal Daddy!

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[Avil]

I want to know who Nelson is first before I can agree to that

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[Alien]

We'll never get it...

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[Avil]

nope, that was what I thought aswell, that´s why I wont agree!

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[Ariana Dreamer]

hmm... mysterious Nelson.
The dreamkeeper of Alphaville.
The gatekeeper of the Ivory Tower.
Our own Universal Daddy...
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With all my love - I went into the world

[micki]

*haha* to find an answer to a question, we'll have to find out the other answers first...*dang* we'll never get over these problems...

"the 80's child"

[Ariana Dreamer]

You´re right...
And Marian is having the time of his life knowing how much we think of this...

With all my love - I went into the world

[micki]

twisted teaser...<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

"the 80's child"

[Ariana Dreamer]

...And that´s why we love our dear Marian.
He is the mystery personified...
...just as Nelson.

With all my love - I went into the world

[micki]

...he's beeing mean here...but I like bad boys <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> *hehe*...

"the 80's child"

[Ariana Dreamer]

...I will not even try to answer that one...


With all my love - I went into the world


Edited by - Ariana Dreamer on 30 Nov 2001 14:07:56

[micki]

OK...good!

"the 80's child"

[Leningrad]

Just listened to UD Extended, and I think it beats the original. Its longer but better i would say. What do you guys think?

[TheMoonBoy]

I'm guessing you are referring to the Universal Daddy (Aquarian Dance Mix)?

I also heard it for the first time quite recently, but I must say I didn't feel it added all that much to the original version, it's just longer. I've definitely heard worse though :)

[Leningrad]

I'm guessing you are referring to the Universal Daddy (Aquarian Dance Mix)?

I also heard it for the first time quite recently, but I must say I didn't feel it added all that much to the original version, it's just longer. I've definitely heard worse though :)

I think the remix was good, but i have to agree with you there is nothing much new.

[Mateusz]

there are good both... it's good to have nice alternative :)

[davidhorizon]

I prefer the demo version.

[Leningrad]

Demo version is ok it has does quirky synths in the start, but it lacks the cool riff that happens after the chorus in the regular version.

[Mrs.Picard]

I prefer the demo version.

I agree wholeheartedly. ;)

[poul e]

Aquarian Dance Mix is by far the best version of "Universal daddy". It's from the time when remixes were true to the original album/single versions in the way that they weren't completely changed and ruined like most extended versions since the 80s. Like most of those great extended 80s you need to play them loud to really experience the full sound!! Very few of them do really well on 2 small computer speakers....

[Adiville]

I agree with Poul e [beer]
Love this song very much and this version rocks big time !!!!!!

[Leningrad]

Aquarian Dance Mix is by far the best version of "Universal daddy". It's from the time when remixes were true to the original album/single versions in the way that they weren't completely changed and ruined like most extended versions since the 80s. Like most of those great extended 80s you need to play them loud to really experience the full sound!! Very few of them do really well on 2 small computer speakers....


Yeah you really need good speakers, the speakers i have are actually integrated to the monitor. Very crappy.

[Katrin]

I don´t like so Universal Daddy, I find it very nerved(Greetings to Mr. Gold ;-))) ) But so for me is the Aquarian Dance Mix better, as the other vision, anyway.

[wii]

I think you should stop posting, once again you have started a new topic without searching, you didn´t take my last warning seriously, so now you will be banned for a 1 week from today, if you complain about this ban, it will be forever, if you complain to other members, it will be forever, if you make the smallest mistake when I remove the ban, it will be forever. Yeah, it sounds unfair, but I don´t give a shit...[banghead]

Just listened to UD Extended, and I think it beats the original. Its longer but better i would say. What do you guys think?

[TheBlue]

Just curiosity... he did not start new topic, but answered one really old? was that wrong thing to do or what? not that I complain about your decision nut anyway. and sorry for offtopic.

[Krapplund]

@TheBlue: Willy have moved the new topic to this old one....

[Martok]

I must admit, that I didn't like the song when it was released. I thought that "Jerusalem" would have been a much better single. But it has grown on me.

[emo72]

nah... I never liked UD. always thought it was a terrible song and i

remember with disbelief when they decided to release it as a single.

it was the 2nd? single off the utopia album and it done absolutely

nothing to promote it. But I'm glad MG is able to admit that he does

not like it.

[Kaz]

From Marian:

Dear Adi!
...we saw thepop-media mainly from a &quot;singles-perspective&quot;. Singles are pure commercial
objects. They only make sense when they sell...However, my deepest belief was (and still is) that writing music only for the sake of commercial success is the worst deal you can do, a dead end
street (14 years later we wrote a song about that subject called &quot;Dangerous
Places&quot
Marian Gold


Wonder if he still feels this way...hmmm...

[Foolship1077]

Why haven't I commented on this yet???

Actually, I've gotten to like it more recently. Sorry, Marian, but I don't know why that is, but I have been getting this urge to groove when I hear it now.

And that Aquarian Remix is quite good! Is there a CD compilation that has this? I'd love to get my hands on the Real Deal if I cannot find it as an iTune.

[Kaz]

OK, I agree with Marian when he says the lyric is shit. It is. It's very worthy of many cringes. However, I love the music and for that reason, UNIDAD is one of my favourites. I don't even really listen to the lyric...

[Clare]

He is your very own Universal Daddy Kaz. [laugh]